KGB - What would the following yield in ADG?

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KGB - What would the following yield in ADG?

Post by JaCoE » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:00 am

Pig 1, trying to hold to 1lb ADG or less, while sculpting muscle, and adding cover, 22lbs in 22 days - Was 250 on 7-6, I want 275 on 8-2
16% feed 1 lb
Fitter35 2lbs
Power Fuel 1lb
champion Drive 1 lb
rolled oats 1lb

Pig2, Trying to PUSH, sculpt muscle and add cover, need 60-70 lbs in 22 days - Was 189 on 7-6, I want 255-260 on 8-2
16% feed 3lbs
Fitter35 1lb
Power Fuel 1lb
Champion Drive 1lb
milk replacer .5lb

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Re: KGB - What would the following yield in ADG?

Post by kgb » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:06 am

Couple of things; you cannot sculpt muscle and add cover. Sculpting means burning fat, not adding it, and the ADG also depends upon the nutrients in the 16% feed. (What is the crude fat and crude fiber content?)

And milk replacers are not all the same. I suggest Heavy Weight (highest crude fat milk replacer I have seen is 35%, while Heavy Weight is 70% fat).

I can tell that the diet for pig 1. will result in more than 1 lb per day gain.
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Re: KGB - What would the following yield in ADG?

Post by JaCoE » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:12 am

Mostly I want to add cover...

It's Linder 685
Protein 16
Lysine 1
Fat 7.5
Fiber 4.1

How to keep PIG1 1 lb or less with adding top cover?

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Re: KGB - What would the following yield in ADG?

Post by kgb » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:11 pm

Forgive me I’m confused when you say top cover. Usually when Showpig people talk about the “top” of a pig it is relation to muscle shape. And when we talk about “cover” it refers to fat cover. Putting cover specifically on the top of a pig will fill in the groove, sometimes called a ditch. Which will decrease muscle shape.

Just making sure what you are wanting to do (add muscle shape or add fat)? BTW adding fat while only gaining 1 lb per day is extremely difficult to do.
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Re: KGB - What would the following yield in ADG?

Post by JaCoE » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:49 pm

I'm sure I'm confusing, I am fairly new...

PIG 1 need more top, and seems to need more defined muscle, and needs to stay under 1 lb adg. Mostly I need to stay under 1ADG

PIG2 needs more top, and more cover, I think... and I need to push him...

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Re: KGB - What would the following yield in ADG?

Post by kgb » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:38 pm

Ok.

Pig 1:
(Total daily feed; divide into 2 equal meals):
Fitter 35. 3 lb
Depth Charge. 1/2 lb

Pig will gain 0.25 to 0.35 lb per day and improve top shape.

Pig 2:
(Total daily feed; divide into 2 eqymual mesls):
HSC Showpig 909. 4 - 5 lb
HO Champion Drive. 1 lb
HO Heavy Weight. 8 oz (in 3-4 days increase to 12 oz)

Mix Heavy Weight with enough water to make a milk shake like consistency and then add to the feed. You also might think about adding a Paylean.
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Re: KGB - What would the following yield in ADG?

Post by JaCoE » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:54 pm

Thank you, will try this out.

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