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Paylean

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:33 pm
by ALLEFT
Does paylean have a withdrawal time before slaughter?

Re: Paylean

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:37 pm
by bcbully
No withdrawal with Paylean

Re: Paylean

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:46 pm
by ALLEFT
Thanks

Re: Paylean

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:45 pm
by weavs150
Does paylean increase weight gain significantly ?

Re: Paylean

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:15 pm
by bcbully
Paylean® delivers up to 20.6 percent increased average daily gain (ADG) and up to
15.2% in improved feed efficiency (FE). Because the present formula to calculate the
lean gain index in swine derby shows places a significant value on ADG, a Paylean®
advantage may be noted in derby shows. Also a feed savings may be realized due to
the improvement in ADG and FE but it may be offset by the increased cost of a
higher protein diet and the cost of Paylean®

Re: Paylean

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:15 am
by Pac
It absolutely does improve weight gain significantly. It works best in animals that are already eating well and gaining normally.

It has some risks:

1. It can cause attitude problems, especially in stress positive pigs.

2. Pigs need to be structurally correct, especially in movement, or it can exacerbate those issues.

Re: Paylean

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:58 pm
by weavs150
i had intentions of finishing my daughters 4h pigs, on a paylean enriched feed. She is going to finish on the extreme high end with her pigs and may risk going over weight. Would it be best to scrap the feed we already bought with paylean in it (250#) to not risk finishing over weight ? This would be are first year in 4H. the feed is kalmbach smooth design 18 fortified, it has the paylean added directly to the mix.

Re: Paylean

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:15 am
by bcbully
weavs150 wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:58 pm
i had intentions of finishing my daughters 4h pigs, on a paylean enriched feed. She is going to finish on the extreme high end with her pigs and may risk going over weight. Would it be best to scrap the feed we already bought with paylean in it (250#) to not risk finishing over weight ? This would be are first year in 4H. the feed is kalmbach smooth design 18 fortified, it has the paylean added directly to the mix.
Depends on pigs:
weights
days till weigh in
max weight
fat cover
muscling
soundness

Not all pigs should be fed paylean

Re: Paylean

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:33 am
by weavs150
We have 32 days until fair weigh ins. Both pigs are sound, with decent body muscle. The male is a tad on the chubby side and the one I am worried about going over. If he stays on track from the last weigh in he will be 294 pounds max weight is 300

Re: Paylean

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:05 am
by bcbully
We typically only use Paylean the last two weeks maybe 18 days. You have time to evaluate and make the decision later.

Re: Paylean

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:01 am
by kgb
Just a thought Paylean does 3 things:

1. Increase muscle
2. Decrease body fat
3. Increase growth rate

High Octane Fitter 52 does 2 of those things:

1. Increase muscle
2. Decrease body fat

Fitter 52 does NOT increase growth rate. The feeding rate is 1 lb per day. To trim jowl fat etc... remove energy or fat supplements from the pig’s diet when you add Fitter 52.

Re: Paylean

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:16 pm
by weavs150
thanks for all information. I have tried to attach a picture of the two, but am unsure of how.

Re: Paylean

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:35 am
by ALLEFT
If I am feeding 7lbs of feed a day, how much paylean do I add to the feed daily?

Re: Paylean

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:28 am
by kgb
I depends upon the Paylean product and the ractopamine HCl concentration (they are all different). For High Octane Paylean 900 it is 1 oz (1 scoop) in 5 lb of feed.