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Colorful Boars

Post by mm21 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:59 am

I am looking for boars that throw color?? Also gilt friendly?

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Re: Colorful Boars

Post by craiglibby » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:09 am

Are you looking for boars of any particular breed? What colors are you after?

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Re: Colorful Boars

Post by mm21 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:29 am

I have a crossbred gilt- she is 1/2 hamp. Looking for some red/calico babies.

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Re: Colorful Boars

Post by craiglibby » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:40 am

You could try Taco Bill at Shipley's Swine Genetics. He's a belted red, and from what I've seen, he does throw color. I'm not sure how gilt friendly he is, or if and how he would compliment your gilt, but you can give them a call and ask. The whole crew there is very helpful. Another one that is good, and ALWAYS throws color, is Lawless. He's also at Shipley's. However, he throws blues and blue belts, along with some black belted. Not sure if you'd be interested in that or not.

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Re: Colorful Boars

Post by bcbully » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:30 pm

mm21 wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:29 am
I have a crossbred gilt- she is 1/2 hamp. Looking for some red/calico babies.
To get red pigs you either need two red genes or one red and one from neutral (Spot, Berk, Poland or Pietrain). When you say Hamp do you mean purebred Hampshire? What's the other half of the cross?
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Re: Colorful Boars

Post by mm21 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:30 pm

Her dad is Shock the World from Shaffers and her momma's from Reachin' High at Shaffers as well.

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Re: Colorful Boars

Post by bcbully » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:17 pm

She has black sire and black grand sire and great grand sire on her dams side. Based on her pedigree I would guess she is homozygous black. The only other color you probably have a chance for in one generation is a blue butt from a white boar. It would take two generations to get red in there.
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Re: Colorful Boars

Post by MuleyJ » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:09 pm

I will say it surprises us but we bred an all black lock it up x hilbilly bone gilt to ghost at PBG expecting blue butts and ended up with 4 red belts 4 belts 2 white and 1 blue. Also bred him to a silver lining blue mask and had all belts and blues. All kids were very nicely sized and came on their own on the gilt. Take that for what its worth?

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Re: Colorful Boars

Post by craiglibby » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:08 pm

MuleyJ wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:09 pm
I will say it surprises us but we bred an all black lock it up x hilbilly bone gilt to ghost at PBG expecting blue butts and ended up with 4 red belts 4 belts 2 white and 1 blue. Also bred him to a silver lining blue mask and had all belts and blues. All kids were very nicely sized and came on their own on the gilt. Take that for what its worth?
For what it's worth, one thing we've discovered it that, when it comes to crossbreds, there's always a chance for a surprise in there. I know there's a science to figuring out what colors, or patterns, you SHOULD get when crossing two specific colored parents, but in our experience, like yours apparently, it seems like some random color will just show up from somewhere in the past on occasion.

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