Which Way Should We Be Going?

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Which traits are the most important traits in a market show pig prospect (check the top 3

Bone
22
10%
Structural soundness
75
33%
Muscle
49
22%
Ability to get fat
4
2%
Depth of Body & Rib
43
19%
Width of chest
11
5%
Large frame
6
3%
Moderate frame
11
5%
short body length
1
0%
long body length
5
2%
 
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Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by Mary-Okie » Tue May 28, 2013 10:00 am

Haven't seen a good discussion on here in a while, so thought I would start one:

Here is a poll, mark your top three when you think of "must have" traits in a market show pig prospects.

Make sure to add comments to justify your top three!
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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by tvd05 » Tue May 28, 2013 10:30 am

are we feeding these pigs? or are we judging them in a show?

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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by torf » Tue May 28, 2013 4:41 pm

Where is the box that says lay down and farrow with ease? I guess that comes with frame size and capacity.

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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by Galion » Tue May 28, 2013 7:00 pm

torf wrote:Where is the box that says lay down and farrow with ease? I guess that comes with frame size and capacity.
Funny, I thought this topic was asking about what was the most important in a market show. Good luck farrowing out your barrows though, let me know how it goes.

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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by Gilbertowner » Wed May 29, 2013 8:08 am

Son says COLOR

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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by Mestach » Wed May 29, 2013 10:09 am

Galion wrote:
torf wrote:Where is the box that says lay down and farrow with ease? I guess that comes with frame size and capacity.
Funny, I thought this topic was asking about what was the most important in a market show. Good luck farrowing out your barrows though, let me know how it goes.
Going to have to point this one out again to make sure we are all in agreence. This is for a market hog. Not breeding stock. With that, I don't know how structural soundess doesn't make everyones numbe one deciding factor, after that I think you can toss it up in the air, my second was muscle is product. Carrying the weight is the most important then having the ability to put on the weight is next, after all we are talking about overall product of a pig. After those it really is a toss up for me, I went with width of chest but I could see bone being third too, like I said, it is a toss up.

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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by showby » Wed May 29, 2013 1:12 pm

I think structural soundess has to be number one. Muscle should be two. After that it gets real close with bone, frame size, and fleshing ability. I think we are going to have to make them with a little more frame and when you do that there is only so much bone, rib, and body you can put on them to keep them within the weight limits.

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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by bcbully » Wed May 29, 2013 2:41 pm

Maybe should have added fat to the questionnaire.
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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by tvd05 » Wed May 29, 2013 10:57 pm

I agree, soundness needs to be one. Muscle goes second for me in a market/prospect class. I mean that is their purpose afterall. After that I think it gets close between bone and rib. I was really hoping to see balance on that list. But I guess that might be combined in with soundness and rib perhaps?

Now, that being said, I think it needs to be explicitly stated that we should not be one-traiting the hogs we select. I'd rather have on that is moderately muscled with enough bone than one that is super stout but plain in their muscle shape, or extremely muscular but tight ribbed. It's really those hogs that are complete, but excel in one or two particular areas that sift to the top when i'm selecting projects or judging shows.

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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by showby » Thu May 30, 2013 8:31 am

Another thing that everybody is preaching is height at the shoulder. To many hogs run down hill.

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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by Mary-Okie » Thu May 30, 2013 12:10 pm

bcbully wrote:Maybe should have added fat to the questionnaire.
It's on the list. "The Ability to get fat"
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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by HogDoc » Fri May 31, 2013 9:15 am

I want to vote for soundness three times.
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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by Elliott » Fri May 31, 2013 9:49 am

It isn't giving me the option to vote......... but from a Buyer's perspective the number one thing that I look for when buying for a market hog show is structural soundness. Then I start looking at other things. I've turned down much more heavily muscled pigs because it didn't appear structurally sound enough. So from a breeder's perspective I would think this would be the same answer.

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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by Kathy » Fri May 31, 2013 7:48 pm

I picked soundness first, There is a lot you can do with a feed bucket.
Muscle second, after all you still need to have a pig with the potential to have enough of the right kind of muscle.
I picked depth of body and rib third, because I absolutely HATE no eating pigs.
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Re: Which Way Should We Be Going?

Post by NexGen » Fri May 31, 2013 11:43 pm

Kathy wrote:I picked soundness first, There is a lot you can do with a feed bucket.
Muscle second, after all you still need to have a pig with the potential to have enough of the right kind of muscle.
I picked depth of body and rib third, because I absolutely HATE no eating pigs.
I agree with you 100 percent!

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