Resuscitating newborn piglet

mtbkmom · Post by **mtbkmom** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:06 am

I was searching the internet for some other products for our breeding/farrowing program and I came across a product made over in Europe, but we cannot figure if this company has an American distribution point....the product is a nasal spray--comes in a 100ml bottle. It says that it is used to instill into the nares of piglets born not breathing to cause them to have a reflexive sneeze followed by a gasp that gets them started to breath. I guess it sounds like some kind of nasal chemical irritant. It kind of makes sense that if they sneeze/cough, they start to gasp and take a breath..... Do we use anything like this in the U.S.?

bobb · Post by **bobb** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:29 am

don't know about product!

have you ever hear of taking a none breathing piglet and putting them in a bucket of hot water (nose out of the water). I was told the piglet would soon start to breath on it own!

buckibri · Post by **buckibri** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:46 pm

bobb wrote:don't know about product!

have you ever hear of taking a none breathing piglet and putting them in a bucket of hot water (nose out of the water). I was told the piglet would soon start to breath on it own!

That is how you rapidly warm a cold pig. dry them off and put back on the sow!

Pigs can be so cold they have a very slow and weak heartbeat, when warmed they return to normal. Nothing on the planet can make a dead pig return to life.

Pigs that suffocate during birth may have enough remedial oxygen left to be brought back if you can get them started. Curious on the product mentioned.

Piggy · Post by **Piggy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:20 am

I have saved lots of pigs that are born not breathing, but have a heart beat. first i sling them to try to remove any phlem from the nose, and then I clean off the nose and cup my hand around the nose and start breathing into the nose and then I push down on the chest a couple of times. Most of the time they all take a breath or two and finally come around. They are slower to nurse and walk around. I do give them some warm karo syrup with a syringe seems to help also. Good luck, always works for me IF there heart is still beating. Piggy

bren · Post by **bren** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:52 am

If I have one of those completely lifeless or really weak pigs born, I try to get them stimulated, warm, dry and moving. Once that is happening, First Pulse D from Ralco is a good follow up.It gives them a kick start and gets them nursing much sooner. It also is helpful down the road for other setbacks.

This is a must have product to keep on hand. It is very inexpensive as well.

Darin · Post by **Darin** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:33 am

mtbkmom wrote:I was searching the internet for some other products for our breeding/farrowing program and I came across a product made over in Europe, but we cannot figure if this company has an American distribution point....the product is a nasal spray--comes in a 100ml bottle. It says that it is used to instill into the nares of piglets born not breathing to cause them to have a reflexive sneeze followed by a gasp that gets them started to breath. I guess it sounds like some kind of nasal chemical irritant. It kind of makes sense that if they sneeze/cough, they start to gasp and take a breath..... Do we use anything like this in the U.S.?

If you can post the name of the product and/or the manufacturer I may be able to help you out.

jg14 · Post by **jg14** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:02 am

The way that I was taught to solve this is to dry them off with a towel or something of this nature. Then rub the piglets nose on the side of the sow against her hair. This was an old trick that my dad showed me back in the commercial days. It has work very well for me but the key is to that the pig has a heartbeat. Good luck to all during this busy farrowing season.

mtbkmom · Post by **mtbkmom** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:38 pm

Darin,

The website is www.msschippers.us/eng/index.cfm. On the home page you will see 2 catalogues--Pick the "Export Catalogue 2011-2012." Select "pigs" then go to page 53--product is called: Melissengeest Nasal Spray" with an explanation you can read when you zoom in.

We were actually on this site looking at milk feeders. Man they have a hot one here. On the home page under "pigs", then "milk and wet feed machines" they have a 16 cubie unit we were going to place between 2 crates on a shared wall....it mixes a small amount of milk powder with warm water at a predetermined amount each hour so they don't waste much milk and it is fresh and it self cleans after a certain period of time so the feeder and milk doesn't get nasty. Found a distributer in Canada--$2500/unit...yikes. I am soooo disappointed. I hate cleaning those things every day.....

mtbkmom · Post by **mtbkmom** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:49 pm

I wonder if rubbing the nose against the sows hair is irritating and makes them want to sneeze, gasp, whatever to get away from that scratchy/itchy feeling on their nose--I think I will try this.

Why do we sling piglets instead of just suck out the mucus with an ear bulb syringe. Good Lord, I just about fell backwards and felt my eyes just popping out of my head the first time I saw my oldest son do this...now you have to understand I have resuscitated 100's of preemie babies and we don't do it this way...

We always laugh when it is over and the little one is up and going, but I still for the life of me ask him " why" and he says "because"... So many good memories with family doing this pig stuff...I just love it.

CHOPSTER · Post by **CHOPSTER** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:51 pm

wow, there is all kinds of neat unaffordable stuff on that site. i thought the muzzle for savaging sows was a good idea. i also liked the OB sleeve with the noose attached to the finger tips. i could have used that one several times.

mtbkmom · Post by **mtbkmom** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:01 pm

Yea--looking at this site was like going to the candy store. I saw the sling/glove thing too--wouldn't have to worry about trying to hold onto it at the same time your trying to go down the canal. AND we just laughed at the muzzle--sure could have used that one about 2 summers ago...it looks real serious.

Darin · Post by **Darin** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:22 pm

As far as I know Schippers doesn't have a US distributor. They do well in Canada though.

mtbkmom · Post by **mtbkmom** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:36 pm

Darin--so what do think of that nasal spray stuff???? Have you heard of anyone who has used something like this?

Darin · Post by **Darin** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:45 pm

I don't know anyone who uses nor do I have any experience with it. Sorry I couldn't be more help. I will ask a few Canadian producers if it is common at all in any of their units. I suspect not.

crazypiglady · Post by **crazypiglady** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:22 am

Piggy wrote:I have saved lots of pigs that are born not breathing, but have a heart beat. first i sling them to try to remove any phlem from the nose, and then I clean off the nose and cup my hand around the nose and start breathing into the nose and then I push down on the chest a couple of times. Most of the time they all take a breath or two and finally come around. They are slower to nurse and walk around. I do give them some warm karo syrup with a syringe seems to help also. Good luck, always works for me IF there heart is still beating. Piggy

I am so glad I read this post a few days ago. Had one born that by all appearances looked dead. Felt for a heartbeat (it was beating) and went thru all the above things listed and it lived! Wow! So glad for this forum